Since the thread is closed I have to ask in a new thread. I read and re-read the original post and I didn’t find:
We are talking about public posts on social media, which criticize public posts on social media, so where are they? This post says nothing, it just repeats itself. What are these “various actions”? And the part “how the code of conduct has been violated” does not explain HOW it was violated. It just says which points were violated.
Why did the board decide to intervene to refer this case to the CoCC? Did the people who felt attacked complain to the board? Was this an initiative of a board member? If the issue was raised by the people attacked by these PPGR’s posts, why weren’t they directed to write to the CoCC? Especially after PPGR was told to do this in Mattermost when @f1nch raised the issue with the posts published by some members of PPNL.
I listened to the whole Youtube streaming of the previous board meeting to understand the previous points and this poll is just shortly mentioned. Did the board members privately receive more information to vote upon this issue than what is written here? Because otherwise, I have no idea how it would be possible to vote on an issue where basically the information provided is “trust me, bro”.
Sincerely, unless I am missing something, this matter should have been brought to the attention of the CoCC by the interested parties, not by the board.
The background is that complaints were aired out during a board meeting.
Building on that, during a few weeks / board meetings, the subject of referring the matter to the CoCC was discussed, leading to the vote and the referral
The grounding, from my side, is:
People complained
When disciplinary stuff happens, everyone usually shies away from doing anything (even if the CoCC can take initiative)
In the past, issues were left to rot
I didn’t want that to happen, so I brought the matter to Board meetings in order for the Board to exercise its right to refer cases to the CoCC (doesn’t mean the Board takes a stance on the issue)
On the more technical side:
The text in the vote is the content of the email
Additional material not present in the thread has been attached as well
The CoCC is free in how they collect information/investigate and how it leads to their report, afaik
To my understanding, PPGR’s complaint are on the lack of statements. It’s a matter for the Council and is not a matter of “discipline” or reprehensible actions.
Which complaints from PPGR do you have in mind? I may have missed some.
I would like to state that:
We are volunteers: the complaints made in the Board Meeting more easily caught my attention
We are humans: and I have been the target of some comments, which made me distance myself
Everyone can go to the CoCC: while I get it, it cuts both ways that the Board can refer issues (if I hear an harassment complaint, I am not letting it go unchecked), anyone can ask for any kind of complaint to be examined, so please ask them why they did not do so.
This is the kind of BS we deal with. Derogatory remarks in response to a well documented international law violation. Will the board get Kluver to the CoCC? No, I am not asking you to, because that would be a double standard. I am waiting for you to do it automatically.
Expressing a personal opinion is worthy a complaint before the CoCC? Freedom of expression is now worthy a complaint. I believe you by now are far away from the PPR and shared values I experienced in Athens at its founding/registration. Still having in mind the old and therefore bad tear gas from riot police i experienced that very day due to ongoing protests at parliament. My opinion is, you personally are not valuing our shared values any longer. Just blaming people and organisations who do not share your personal point of view 1:1.
Well so far you troll the movement! No real discussion with you seems to be possible. You stick to your own opinion that shall be shared by all others. That is obvious. And others who do not agree with you are getting blocked and blamed. Nice blame gaming. Okay, it is harrasment. Sorry to see that PPGR lead by you is getting isolated and thereby going away from the very pirate ideas. This is not the PPGR I once met in Athens, But go on and disqualify yourself even further.
On Sunday, June 1, 2025, the 12th Congress of the Pirate Party of Greece (PEIR) took place, held entirely online. This Congress was intended to be of pivotal importance, as the body of PEIR members was called upon to decide on issues pertaining not only to formal procedural functions, but also to the party’s very political and ideological identity. Specifically:
Through the adoption of the new Statutes and the Rethymno Declaration, the body of PEIR members was called upon to decide on strengthening the progressive, secular, anti-racist, and inclusive character of the party and on specifying its broadened fields of political activity.
It was also called upon to decide on the future of its relations with the European Pirate Party (PPEU) and Pirate Parties International (PPI), taking into account the positions expressed by their leaderships.
Following extensive and thorough information from the Steering Committee on the situation within the Pirate Movement, the need for a new beginning was identified, on a consistent progressive basis, without “glancing” towards neoliberalism, techno-feudalism, neo-colonialism, and the Far Right, and also without the “burden” of identification with entities and individuals who express abhorrent public discourse.
Therefore, the following decisions were taken by the body of members:
The Rethymno Declaration was unanimously passed, replacing the Uppsala Declaration. The Rethymno Declaration is a political, ideological, and programmatic declaration of the Pirate Party of Greece and a call for the re-establishment of the Pirate Movement on solid ideological, political, and ethical foundations, without ambiguities. It is adapted to the current political reality, to the real concerns and needs of citizens and PEIR members, and serves as a compass and basis for formulating progressive, democratic, and inclusive policy proposals.
The new Statutes of the Pirate Party of Greece were unanimously passed. This brings about the following significant changes/additions:
It strengthens the party’s progressive character, incorporating, among other things:
Provisions for the promotion of a purely secular state, the strengthening of the party’s progressive ideological profile, as well as the protection of members and citizens from gender, racial, localist, religious, anti-disability, and other forms of discrimination.
Provisions for Member Organizations of a geographical or sectoral nature.
Provisions for incompatibilities and safeguards, so that the power of the party’s organs is not undermined.
It introduces provisions that clarify:
The rights and obligations of members.
The operational procedures of the party’s organs.
The duties and responsibilities of the party’s organs.
The duties, responsibilities, and method of election and replacement of the members of the Steering Committee and the Ethics and Arbitration Committee.
Consultation procedures.
The scope and operation of the Three Pirates Rule.
Provisions for equal and proportionate gender representation in the party’s organs and ballots.
Final and transitional provisions.
Regarding PEIR’s relationship with PPEU and PPI: The unanimous decision was made for PEIR to withdraw from these two formations, as the body of members judged that they have now abandoned the anti-racist, democratic, anti-militarist, peace-loving, pro-equality, fairness, freedom, and self-determination of peoples, essence of the Pirate Ideology. They produce no political added value and do not allow for productive and constructive political dialogue. Members who requested and were granted the floor particularly emphasized and denounced the hegemonic presence in these formations of individuals who (a) favor militarism and a new arms race, (b) have fully adopted the positions and rhetoric of the extremist, far-right, and corrupt Israeli government, and (c) express blatant contempt for International Law and international organizations for justice and humanitarian aid, as well as internationally recognized organizations for press freedom, human rights, and civil rights.
The Steering Committee is authorized and instructed by the body of members to undertake the following actions:
Publication of the Rethymno Declaration and the new Statutes.
Publication of a withdrawal announcement from PPEU and PPI.
Initiation of outreach and collaborations with individuals, parties, and entities of the broader progressive-democratic space, starting from the local and national level.
Why do you want the minutes?
Collecting personal data like East Germany Stasi?
GDPR Art. 9 Processing of personal data revealing racial or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical beliefs, or trade union membership, and the processing of genetic data, biometric data for the purpose of uniquely identifying a natural person, data concerning health or data concerning a natural person’s sex life or sexual orientation shall be prohibited
Expressing a personal opinion is what led to the PPEU Board proceeding with this weird motion in the first place. The “issue” was that there were PPGR members criticizing other “pirate” members who publicly exclaim appalling statements in social media.
Personally - participating in the last 5-6 PPEU Council Meetings as the delegation of PPGR, in the last two I didn’t experience any shared pirate values at all. On the contrary I was greeted with NATO flags, and a mere procedural blocking of any political discussion. It wasn’t like that a few years back either. Thus, PPGR has remained truthful to the shared values that pre-existed - PPEU has not.
So at the very least, stop blaming members of PPGR anywhere you find them online, and start questioning yourself why the members of PPGR and the Council Meeting they attended to, concluded with those decisions. We discussed over those, voted in favor of/against/abstained, and concluded via political discussion for each and every one of those, publishing what the Council decided to publish.
I suggest that you thoroughly read our published texts and the Rethymno Declaration, and then try opening internal discussions towards this direction in the pirate organizations you participate. If you disagree, of course you may ignore my suggestion!
We’ve already sent both the PPEU and PPI our Letter of Resignation and Withdrawal. We shall participate in no further unproductive discussions and procedures.
