International Affairs

CEEP 2024 International Affairs
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Mayby add a note about ISDS in International Trade Agreements, something like:

Investor-state arbitration

These treaties have been found to favor multinational corporations, while small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) have been left behind. The prime concern is Investor to State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) and unfair ‘intellectual property’ provisions. ISDS or its variants, such as the Investor Court System (ICS) are often used by multinationals to forestall regulations they disagree with, or as a business model at the expense of ordinary people. Pirates oppose ISDS in trade agreements.

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I think the question about where to put EU politics isn’t entirely black and white. If we talk about the internal workings of the EU I agree that they don’t necessarily fit under International affairs. Some of it, such as the subsidiarity principle, could probably go to the preamble, and some seem to be covered under the Civil Society chapter. At the same time, it seems obvious to me that our view on the EU enlargement policy fits best under international affairs.

At the end of the day I think that decision can be taken collectively at the meeting in Strasbourg. I think there will have to be a general discussion about structure of the text there anyway. So don’t worry too much about it at this point.

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Thank you Marketa for the work done. I am suggesting the modification and extension of the part related to the functioning and reform of the EU, linking it to the outcomes of the Conference on the future of the EU:

Pirates welcomes the outcome of the Conference on the future of the EU and are in favor of their proper implementation. Pirates want to strengthen the influence role of the European Parliament, as the only directly elected EU institution, on decision-making on EU political matters. Pirates support the effort to acquire a right for the European Parliament to propose legislation, meaning acting as a true legislative body. Pirates seek to replace the current unanimous vote in the Council of the EU by introducing qualified majority voting, especially in the area of matters of foreign and tax policies and matters related to the common budget. Vetoes posed by national states seriously undermines the ability of the EU to react swiftly and effectively to international challenges and threats.

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Thank you, I included your changes!

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Collaborative document:
https://docs.piratpartiet.se/products/files/doceditor.aspx?fileid=6088&doc=bjhuQ01uakJCaDg1N0h4Rm9DSm5zMlRQTDlQdmdLZUl1L0hEdjRyTHVkcz0_IjYwODgi0

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Hi, the section on migration is already updated. Please see the comments here Solidarity and Fairness Overhauling European Refugee and Asylum Policy - #4 by zbynek

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Hello, Strasbourg Meeting! This (the long text in this Discourse thread to which I reply with this message) is the current final text of our working Group. We did not manage to find enough time to thoroughly discuss the last version of Migration and Asylum part, however it has been prediscussed and what you are reading is a compromise of our positions. Please do read comments in the document Zbynek attached above this message for further explanations.

I hope your meeting goes well and our text is found sufficient!

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Hello Marketa! As you might know, me and Veronika are scheduling and finalizing the CEEP. We need to present the chapters for the PPEU- Board-Meeting June 5. Please let us know, if there is a finalized version of Chapter International Affairs, we could rely on to be presented. Thanks and best best, Mia

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Hello, I would like to recommend the following changes:

  • the text on immigration is too much targeted on immigrants, not the voters and their thinking of the problem, I think the text should be more balanced,
  • I disagree with the requirement for the countries to have the same conditions for people coming from different countries of origin; it does not take into account the specific situations that may arise such as with Ukraine - this is an anonymouse change in the collaborative document,
  • it is unecessary to force the states to accept any number of immigrants based on giving them the right to settle anywhere in the union; this would completely take away any means of the state to have a say as far as who exactly and how many people are on its premises.
    Thank you for reading this.

Jakub Michálek

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Dear all,

Please take a look at the latest version of our chapter on migration. We found common grounds for most of the text, but in the section on asylum, some points still need to be discussed.

As pointed out by Jakub Michalek above, it is a question of the sovereignty of member states over the regulation of the intake of refugees. Jakub also mentioned to me that he consulted this point with Jan Lipavsky, our minister of Foreign affairs, who is in favour of the proposed changes.

Jakub suggests deleting mainly these two sentences:

• We must work on non-discriminatory reform of the asylum system all Member States will respect.
• ensures freedom of establishment of refugees‘ lives in Europe for those whose application was approved;

The reasons for removing/rewording these points are to avoid controversy in the eyes of more conservative countries such as Czechia, their media and the likely criticism (to put it mild terms) that would follow if we are too progressive. If I understand Jakub right, it is thus a pragmatic move rather than something he would be necessarily against. At the same time, the second point would probably be valid for refugees but not so much for voters.

I am suggesting replacing the second point with this one. It can, hopefully, work for all parties:

• reconsider the first safe country of asylum principle as decisive in determining where the asylum procedure takes place and where the asylum-seeker must stay,

The suggestions on employment of mutual processing of asylum applications open up a similar set of questions as the two lines above. I edited it this way:

• employs a system of mutual processing of asylum applications, allowing each application to be made directly to the EU while leaving discretion to the Member States to decide whether to admit asylum-seekers onto their territory,

Please take a look at the whole document if it all works out for you.

https://docs.piratpartiet.se/products/files/doceditor.aspx?fileid=6088&doc=bjhuQ01uakJCaDg1N0h4Rm9DSm5zMlRQTDlQdmdLZUl1L0hEdjRyTHVkcz0_IjYwODgi0

I hope the meeting tomorrow will be successful!:slight_smile:

Cheers.

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PS: Please raise your voice if anything important to you is missing or if there is any shortcoming!

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Hi everyone, and thanks for all your work and cooperation, we will now look at the text in Board. If there are any MAJOR problems, please raise your concerns now, as we will proceed with language checks and ratification process. Thank you!

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I had a quick chat with @MarketaG, and for the chapter on International Affairs the version in this thread is indeed the finalized version. The subpart on Migration and Asylum can still do with some work, as you can see from the other comments in this thread.

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When will there be a jitsi meeting about the Migration & Asylum?

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Hi Mark! Thursday would be good. Is there any chance, to have this meeting not too late/earlier on the day? Or would you rather choose weekend? Please make a suggestion. Best, Mia :slight_smile:

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Look here, everybody who has been into this subject! The Germans have done a text here and there are comments :slight_smile: Solidarity and Fairness Overhauling European Refugee and Asylum Policy - #2 by MarketaG . So everybody, interested in immigration and asylum politics, we do it this week, just communicate the “whenwhen” please! Best Mia!

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It is finalisation time. Come on. let’s create a quick round, please :slight_smile:

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Hi, I don’t understand. We already have a position on Migration and Asylum, what kind of German version and meeting are you talking about? I as a coordinator of this chapter have not been informed of this. I consider this chapter done. :open_mouth:

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@Mia This is the last version, including Zbyněk’s and Jakub’s agreement on moresensitive migration language: International Affairs - #2 by MarketaG

Can you explain why is there need to re-open it?

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Sorry Marketa. Of course you should have been involved. I just learned, that this migration and Asylum Chapter should go more into internal politics, and yes, it also has a huge international, global aspect, sure. But we have not scheduled anything and you will be informed, naturally. Best, best, with all the respect and no offense intended, Mia